Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-32811455-20171210074712

Technically, that is, when defending the arm-in guillotine?

The reason I ask is that it just seems like a relatively easy position to get to in most fights. It would seem hard to prevent one's opponent from getting an arm under the neck from a standing position like that. I don't see many guys finish that, and I say that understanding how good Ortega's BJJ is.

Another thought is whether Max's takedown defense, or submission defense, is superior to Cub's. I know his takedown defense is OP, but if he fights Ortega he'll want to keep the fight standing, and not just standing but at range. If he can do that I think tonight showed that Max would beat Ortega. Max is also likely too tall to allow for the leverage Ortega got on Cub in that position.

Final thought: Cub said in his pre-fight interview (the one played as a lead-in just before the fight) that Ortega had "good stand-up and good jiu-jitsu." Surely he knew that it would be more accurate to say "good stand-up and great jiu-jitsu." But when Cub was announced as "a jiu-jitsu fighter" by the announcer, it occured to me that maybe pride had caused him to delude himself that his BJJ was at/near Ortega's level, which we all knew it wasn't. That's one thing Ortega seems to have in his favor -- no ego. He will know that his stand-up is good but not great like Cub's, Max's, or Conor's (Ortega v Conor being yet another fun match-up that'll never happen) which in my mind can only help Ortega. Remember Eddie Alvarez convincing himself he could hang with Conor on the feet, and the end-result of that belief? Such should never happen to Ortega if he can be honest in his self-assessment.

So, any BJJ practitioners have thoughts on Cub's submission defense? 