Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-32811455-20171210074712/@comment-99.248.3.222-20171210222253

It was only a matter of time. almost done 1st round then the invitable happened in the 2nd.

Cub is a Machado Black Belt, Machado is a high-level former Gracie student.

Ortega is a Rener Gracie black belt, funny enough Rener has the same teachers in the Gracie clan basically but not as advanced as Machado.

So its hard to compare credentials in the BJJ world but both are legit lineages I believe Cub actually has a balck belt under the better teacher, its just Ortega is somewhat of a BJJ prodigy.

CanadianOracle