Talk:Urijah Faber (H2H 2)/@comment-106.51.225.89-20170803071007/@comment-31529160-20171030104833

How does his IC have a better ground game? The lowest takedown from H2H IC + any random submission will finish any fighter for sure (at the end of the day it's the finish that matters) and the same goes for his IC so they are even. The rest is just numbers as all that matter is it collectively does a damage of over 37500. His IC has no guard only submissions (making him useless when takendown) while H2H IC has guard included (31k Guillotine) Remember all H2H IC  are Iconic fighters meaning he is also as valuable as IC version too if not more rare as IC can always be showcased or won from events while H2H IC are only from H2H seasons. Those are my thoughts on why I said this version is better